Saturday, July 11, 2015

Our partner in patty-cake - today's edition

While Secretary Global-Test was in Vienna playing extend-the-deadline games with Zarif, this was the scene in Iran:

Millions of Iranians took to the streets on Friday to rally against the United States and Israel, burning the flags of both countries and chanting, “Death to Israel,” according to multiple regional reports.
Iranians marched across the country in support of Quds Day, an annual anti-Israel, anti-American holiday in which citizens lend their support for Palestinian violence against the Jewish state.
Hoards of Iranians could be seen in the streets in cities across the country. They waved signs advocating the destruction of Israel and America and also rallied in support of the Palestinians seizing Jerusalem.
“Demonstrators chant[ed] slogans in condemnation of the Zionists’ crimes in the occupied Palestinian lands,” Iran’s state-controlled Fars News Agency reported.
Chants of “Down with the U.S.” and “Down with Israel” could also be heard echoing through the streets, according to Fars.
The fierce anti-Western demonstration came as U.S. and Iranian negotiators work around the clock in Vienna to finalize an agreement aimed at curbing Iran’s contested nuclear program.
Earlier in the week, Iranian President Hassan Rouhani celebrated Quds Day by calling on his nation to “shout its hatred for the Zionists.”
“People will tell the world on the Quds Day that the Muslim nations will never forget Palestine and occupation of this territory,” Rouhani was quoted as saying on state-run television by the Fars News Agency.
Rouhani went on to state “that the Iranian nation will shout its hatred for the Zionists on the Quds Day,” according to Fars’ report.
 
Global-Test and the Most Equal Comrade may get a legacy all right, but it's more likely to be some incinerated Western cities than it is a prolonged era of international harmony.

12 comments:

  1. Maybe your ilk will get a seat in power coming up. Romney sure tried to bring back your old buddies. But, alas, we all can't be so tuned in to the cosmos and run it right.

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  2. No, but we don't have to let one of the world's five most evil regimes get a nuclear arsenal.

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  3. And your ilk and Nettie don't have to sabotage statecraft either. .

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  4. But alas, we reportedly all can't be the chosen of
    Yahweh, making everyone else theirs and Yahweh's enemy.

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  5. We just barely are ending the Iraq war, which cost us a trillion dollars and led to the emergence of the ISIL/Islamic state. The dismantling of the regime in Iran (if not done, as I hope it someday will be, by a powerful internal Iranian movement just as the Soviet Union was dismantled by its own people and not by an invasion by the U.S.) would likely yield power to forces even worse than the current Iranian regime and more likely like the Islamic state in Iraq . It is unwinnable, and it will lead to the loss of many lives, the possibility of terrorism being spread to the U.S. as many people around the world see and resent the U.S. once again intervening in a country that is not intervening here in the U.S.

    And this will be a huge disaster for the Jewish people. Americans will quickly see that the resulting war was brought about by those who wanted to put the supposed (though mistaken) interests of Israel above the interests of Americans. The outcome could well be a new flourishing of anti-Semitism in our society that has, since the end of the Second World War, managed to keep our home-grown anti-Semites out of positions of power. As American casualties increase, and Iranian terrorists strike inside the U.S., the anger will almost certainly explode against Jews, whereas it should be only directed at the militarists who once again lead us into war.

    read more at http://www.salon.com/2015/03/03/netanyahus_war_must_be_stopped_now_the_real_story_behind_his_speech_to_congress/

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  6. Even if the Iranians did develop nuclear weapons, they would only be joining a world where the U.S. has ten thousand of these or more, and where India and Pakistan also already have these weapons. The Soviets under Stalin were just as much a threat to our security, talked about “burying the U.S. and capitalism,” but of course never used their nukes because they knew the consequences. It is only the U.S. that has ever used nukes, and that was before we realized others could have them too.

    Ibid

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  7. Please try not to be infantile. Iran is not the Soviet Union. The ideology driving it is radical Islam and the mullahs would be perfectly happy to start a nuclear exchange.

    And the author of the Salon piece is being infantile as well. With this deal, Iran's economy, hence its ability to fully fund as much state repression as is necessary, will be thriving, and there will not be any "powerful internal Iranian movement." And that's not how the Soviet Union imploded. It was financially squeezed by American determination to stay ahead of it in the arms race. Gorbachev counted on being able to snooker us into removing the Pershings from West Germany, and to quit funding SDI.

    And the Salon author's West-hatred is on full display with his remark about "want[ing] to put the supposed interests of Israel above the interests of Americans. Maybe his shit-for-brains readership will fall for the idea that there is some divergence of interest regarding this Iran nuke deal, but not informed adults.

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  8. Lerner's one of those self-hating Jews who wouldn't mind at all if Israel were conquered by jihadists. He eulogized the radical West-hater Rachel Corrie. His stinking magazine Tikkun honored Raul Grijalva and Richard Goldstone at a 2011 awards dinner.

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  9. What part of the US (and hence, Israel's) nuclear superiority do you not get? I wonder whose jollies would be jollier if the world blew: Christian fanatical fundies or Muslim ones?

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  10. What part of we just got done with a war in the Middle East costing a trillion dollars and a debatable number of paltry human lives don't you get either? Of course if your ilk had anything to say about just getting done there, we wouldn't be. Or would we? Sooner or later this is going to turn to jew hatred too. We are being called upon to do Nettie's trench work. War in the Middle East is not in our best interests but it is in Nettie's. Something's got to give.

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  11. And, as I said, let's see if you can scare us into electing the likes of your ilk's previous preemptor types. If you do, well, then, you got the power, you got the will, summon our fighting men and women and go to work when you want and how you want.

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  12. And I guess you didn't actually read the post above. I'll summarize: the regime turned out millions of Iranians across the country for death-to-America / death-to-Israel rallies. Then there was the post from the other day in which a top military commander said Iran would still consider post-America an enemy even if a deal is signed.

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