Thursday, August 14, 2014

Phonies and fools

An interesting result of the pace at which national and world events are assuming front-and-center positions on the radar screen this summer is that they point out the hollow nature of the Freedom-Hater vision.  If a set of principles has to be defended alternately by disingenuousness and random outburst that reveal what is really going on in the FHer's mind ("I voted for it before I voted against it," "At this point what difference does it make?", "In five days we begin the fundamental transformation of America," "If you try to build a coal plant, you'll go bankrupt"), its basic incoherence at some point becomes clear to all who care to see. That's where we are now.

Sometimes mere facial expressions speak volumes.  Such was the case with the H-Word Creature at a book signing yesterday.  She'd already begun the process of walking back her "don't-do-stupid-stuff-is-not-an-organizing-principle" remark, but knew she'd still have to deal with more fallout from it.  Someone asked her about seeing the Most Equal Comrade at Vernon Jordan's dinner party that evening, and she said she was quite excited about the prospect.  It was the countenance she wore while she uttered her claptrap, though, that said it all.  Bug eyes and a smile that looked like it was surgically permanent.  No one who isn't up to his or her eyeballs in Kool-Aid is buying it.  This woman wants to be president so bad she pees singularly focused ambition, and whatever kinds of humiliating little dances she has to do - and humiliating little dances are something she knows a lot about - are just part of getting to the objective.

Then there's the MEC and his attempt to weasel out of his culpability for the horror of contemporary Iraq.  Talk about a tortured narrative:

Obama now claims that what the military calls the "Obama bugout" was actually Iraq's idea, not his. Iraq, according to the President, refused to negotiate a reasonable status of forces agreement. So, Obama now says, we had no choice but to leave.
"Do you wish you had left a residual force in Iraq?" asked a reporter recently. "Any regrets about that decision in 2011?" Obama quickly denied any fault: "Keep in mind, that wasn't a decision made by me. That was a decision made by the Iraqi government." A few days ago, another reporter asked the same question. Obama elaborated: "What I just find interesting is the degree to which this issue keeps on coming up, as if this was my decision (emphasis added). Under the previous administration, we had turned over the country to a sovereign, democratically elected Iraqi government. So let's just be clear: The reason that we did not have a follow-on force in Iraq was because the Iraqis -- a majority of Iraqis -- did not want U.S. troops there, and politically they could not pass the kind of laws that would be required to protect our troops in Iraq. So that entire analysis is bogus and is wrong."
Bogus? Was there any doubt about Obama's intentions, regardless of the consequences? On July 3, 2008 Obama said, "My first day in office, I will bring the Joint Chiefs of Staff in, and I will give them a new mission, and that is to end this war." What about a stay-behind force? He called it "a strategic error for us to maintain a long-term occupation in Iraq."

There's something pathos-evoking about watching such figures approach their denouement.  They'd really hoped that they and their warped vision of societal organization could squeak through without having their mettle tested by reality and human nature.  At this juncture, they look so small, so desperate to squelch the doubt that they've begun to entertain.


33 comments:

  1. OK, so we go in guns ablazing again, hell, let's set the world on fire over this, then, after it is all over we'll have another cry for peace forever and be talking again about the war to end all wars. We might even try to reconstruct some semblance of a united nations. What is really warped is repeating the same behavior over and over, then loathing it over and over, praying for peace, praying it is the war to end all wars, yet squawking for the same old crap again and again. Ahh, but Jehovah, he love war. As long as his chosen win. Right? The Father, so Jesus supposedly sayeth, wants us to forgive to be forgiven. And for us to ask to be delivered from evil. Simple solution, complex execution.

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  2. Why are you glad that ISIS has declared among its goals its flag flying over the White House?

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  3. Not glad. Not scared either. You do realize that their real goal is to make Hulk mad. They'd love a world war but they need us to start it.

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  4. How are you able to go through life oblivious to things like obvious threats to the civilization you live in?

    And who is Hulk?

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  5. Oblivious? Admittedly still scarred after the 2 Big Lies my government told me: 1) That the Viet Nam "conflict" was to stop the spread of communism in southeast Asia; and, 2) that marijuana is a dangerous narcotic, possession, production, distrubution or sale of which can be felonious and even grounds for property seizure. Making Hulk mad is what bad guys did to cause him to turn large and green and hideously angry in retaliation. I used him as a symbol of the United States of America vis a vis the actors in the Middle East. Not a sleeping giant, a real one when he got mad though.

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  6. I'm pretty sure a significant majority here stateside agree more with me than with you. You dismiss us as low info. We dismiss you as lying hawks.

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  7. To an extent, what is happening in the Middle East is what happens when America and the West suddenly lose interest. But for the US, the reasons for that new lack of interest are obvious. With America soon predicted to attain energy independence, why should the country continue to involve itself deeply in a region which has cost it so much in blood, treasure and international reputation? Why should the US 5th Fleet continue to attempt to maintain regional security in a continent whose regional resources are increasingly rewarding nobody so much as the Communist Party of China?

    For the UK and other lesser western powers, declining involvement in the region is neither a moral nor an interest-based decision. It is simply a decision based on the fact — as the last decade has proved — that we no longer have either the cash or the commitment to effect any decent outcome in the region.

    Read more at http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2014/06/the-conflict-in-the-middle-east-is-far-bigger-than-isis-and-al-qaeda/

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  8. I wonder whether the hawks in Tibet which it is said was once the most bloodthirsty warring country in the world thought the flag wavers who turned the tide there into what became a highly spiritual (if not materially evolved) beacon of tranquility and peace their warped vision of societal organization? Set your sabre down, quiet the rattling and just sit and perhaps see too. If not, lay off of Jehovah for a bit and investigate the Prince of Peace again and again until perhaps you might "get it."

    “For a child will be born to us, a son will be given to us;
    And the government will rest on His shoulders;
    And His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,
    Eternal Father, Prince of Peace.” (Isaiah 9:6)

    Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/Prince-of-Peace.html#ixzz3ARzrRVGZ

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  9. Not my words, but similar to other words I've heard numerous times from my peers who went there:

    The one thing that ought to be obvious to a civilian is that war zones are an experience to avoid. Nonetheless, I know a couple men who’ve moaned that they missed “Nam,” the great test of manhood of our generation. They’re idiots if they believe that, and twits if they were just mouthing words that had become the in thing for their social circles.

    I haven’t tested my manhood by having my leg ampu­tated without anesthetic; I don’t feel less of a man for lack of the experience. And believe me, I don’t feel more of a man for anything I saw or did in Southeast Asia.

    The people I served with in 1970 (the enlisted men) were almost entirely draftees. At that time nobody I knew in-country:

    thought the war could be won;
    thought our government was even trying to win;
    thought the brutal, corrupt Saigon government was worth saving;
    thought our presence was doing the least bit of good to anybody, particularly ourselves.
    But you know, I’m still proud of my unit and the men I served with. They weren’t exactly my brothers, but they were the folks who were alone with me. Given the remarkably high percentage of those eligible who’ve joined the association of war-service Blackhorse veterans, my feelings are normal for the 11th Cav. Nobody who missed the Vietnam War should regret the fact. It was a waste of blood and time and treasure. It did no good of which I’m aware, and did a great deal of evil of which I’m far too aware. But having said that . . .

    I rode with the Blackhorse.

    Read more from one who went there at http://david-drake.com/2009/vietnam/

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  10. avid Drake (born September 24, 1945) is an American author of science fiction and fantasy literature. A Vietnam War veteran who has worked as a lawyer, he is now one of the major authors of the military science fiction genre.Drake graduated Phi Beta Kappa from the University of Iowa, majoring in history (with honors) and Latin. His studies at Duke University School of Law were interrupted for two years when he was drafted into the U.S. Army, where he served as an enlisted interrogator with the 11th Armored Cavalry (The Black Horse Regiment) in Vietnam and Cambodia. With Karl Edward Wagner and Jim Groce, he was one of the initiators of Carcosa, a small press company. He now lives in Pittsboro, North Carolina.

    From wiki

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  11. Many of our members deployed to Iraq during the recent US occupation. Those of us who were there know first hand that US military solutions in Iraq do not serve the interests of the Iraqi people. We advocate for the self-determination of all people, in this case the people of Iraq. Any solution to this crisis must come from them.

    When the United States invaded and occupied Iraq, the formerly secular country was destabilized. The United States and the Department of Defense intentionally created and agitated sectarian divisions that would not have otherwise existed. The result of this is what we see today, and Iraqi civilians are paying for it.

    Iraqis have been paying with their lives for this war since March 2003. After 10 years of US occupation they were left with little relief. Their economic infrastructure was destroyed and new work to repair it has been awarded to US corporations and contractors, instead of to Iraqis. Iraqi labor unions face frequent retaliation, and an entire generation of children has been born with severe birth defects in places like Hawija. No one has been held to account. No effort has been made to clean the waste left behind.

    When it comes to arming “freedom fighters” the US has a tendency to act as a fair-weather friend; today’s freedom fighter becomes tomorrow’s terrorist and justification to pursue an illegal invasion. Instead of creating more chaos, we should be solving the problems that already exist. Instead of installing another puppet president, the United States should be cleaning up environmental contamination, investigating allegations of torture, and allowing democracy to blossom in both government and labor, without US intervention.

    Read more at http://www.ivaw.org/blog/ivaw-statement-crisis-iraq

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  12. A couple of things: If the official reason for US involvement - stopping Communism's spread - was a "big lie," what was the real reason, and why was the government expressing concern about the North's violation of the Geneva accord as far back as the late 1950s? Also, I refuse to bring marijuana into a discussion about existential threats to the West. Also, why do you continue to deliberately ignore the same phenomenon with regard to Iraq? You know perfectly well the public statements by Bill Clinton, Al Gore, Madeleine Albright and other Democrats from the late 1990s expressing grave concern over Saddam's belligerence and keen interest in a WMD program.

    Also, with regard to the "fair-weather friend" business: It's called living in the wold you're dealt. FDR and CHurchill had to swallow hard to form a tactical alliance with Stalin; there was no choice.

    Finally, I stand by my claim that you willfully ignore the current threat. You like to quote others, so ponder this one for a minute or two:


    how about just this exchange from a week ago with between Breaking Defense's James Kitfield and Lt. General Michael Flynn, the outgoing head of the Defense Intelligence Agency:

    JK: When you were asked recently at the Aspen Security Forum whether the United States is safer from the terrorist threat today than before 9/11, you answered no.

    Flynn: I know that’s a scary thought, but in 2004, there were 21 total Islamic terrorist groups spread out in 18 countries. Today, there are 41 Islamic terrorist groups spread out in 24 countries. A lot of these groups have the intention to attack Western interests, to include Western embassies and in some cases Western countries. Some have both the intention and some capability to attack the United States homeland.

    For instance, we’re doing all we can to understand the outflow of foreign fighters from Syria and Iraq, many of them with Western passports, because another threat I’ve warned about is Islamic terrorists in Syria acquiring chemical or biological weapons. We know they are trying to get their hands on chemical weapons and use what they already have to create a chemical weapons capability.

    Remember anthrax was used in 2001 [killing five people] and pretty much paralyzed Capitol Hill. If that anthrax had been dispersed more efficiently, it could have killed a quarter million people.

    JK: You also said recently that terrorist leaders like Osama bin Laden represent the leadership of al-Qaeda, but that “core al-Qaeda” is its ideology of perpetual jihad.

    Flynn: Yes, and unfortunately the core ideology and belief system is spreading, not shrinking. Look at the unbelievably violent videos [of beheadings, executions and the destruction of religious places] coming out of Iraq just in recent days. I’ve physically interrogated some of these guys, and I’ve had the opportunity to hear them talking about their organizations and beliefs. These are people who have a very deeply-rooted belief system that is just difficult for Americans to comprehend. Just think about the mindset of a suicide bomber.

    The world-affairs stuff I write about on this blog never has been an armchair exercise in something that mildly interests me. It's been about doing what I can to spread accurate news and analysis of the West's dire circumstances.

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  13. Most of your blog here quotes others. Commenters cant?

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  14. Commenting here has also been an armchair exercise for me. I have been working my mind out here for free and at your former blog for 8 years now. Thanks for abiding me.

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  15. Back to my main point: You don't think ISIS and jihad in general poses any kind of threat to your way of life?

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  16. Also, what was US involvement in Vietnam really about, in your estimation?

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  17. When a marine told me all they were ever told about our mission in Vietnam was that it was to stop the spread of communism in Southeast Asia,, I was a bit taken aback because it accomplished anything but that. The most powerful military the world has ever known could not accomplish this apparently simple goal. So I suppose it was indeed, simply a dissase called war. A cure for this disease has not been found yet but we still wait with hope.

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  18. Jihad has yet to threaten my way of life. If and when it appears to be to me, I willarm myself and shoot to kill anyone who seeks to kill me or my family.

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  19. And if Laos and Cambodia fell, what difference has it made to us here stateside? Correct me if I am wrong, but I do not recall Southeast Asian commies being a threat to us or bothering us in any way since we left the region after arguably losing the "conflict."

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  20. When these threats reach the point where you personally need a gun to protect your particular home and family, it's too late. I guess you've heard about this:

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/secret-service-aware-apparent-isis-flag-photo-front/story?id=24985241

    The tweet beneath the photo says:

    A Message to US from ISIS:


    We are in your state
    We are in your cities
    We are in your streets

    You are our goals anywhere

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  21. Answer me this: Did the 9/11/01 attacks evoke the slightest bit of alarm and outrage from you, or did you regard them as a mildly noteworthy blip on the endless parade of overall human folly?

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  22. Oh no it portended ww3 for me. I still hope i am wrong.

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  23. I knew that the military industrial complex would not take that lightly and that there would be ghasty retaliation and responses in kind.None of the players are all that blessed with lovng kindness. It doesn't really matter who pays as long as heads roll.

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  24. And you can refuse to bring marijuana into the discussion but there is no escaping the fact that our government losteoporosis its credibility for a lot of voters over its outright dam able lies about it and Nam. And yes, you might be surprised that folks you berate as sheep and low info will spy ignore the government's considerable will in such regards.

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  25. This sounds like a lot of generalities that don't go very far in addressing anything particular about where we are or how to deal with it.

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  26. Nobody knows how to deal with it. It has been that way from the day after 9/11. We don't know who to go after, really, and the terrorists know that. They got us running around in circles. Right where they want us. Sorry that is a generality. So is the power granted to the president by Congress shortly after 9/11. I was not impressed with the way Bush handled it all either. Your ilk wants a return to some semblance of that. All the former failed players are gasping for power again. That was obvious from who was courting and courted by Romney to conduct his foreign policy if elected. Instead, your ilk is relegated to bitch status and you sure do enough of that.

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  27. Ironic that I would hear this broadcast on NPR tonight.

    60 Words
    This hour we pull apart one sentence, written in the hours after September 11th, 2001, that has led to the longest war in U.S. history. We examine how just 60 words of legal language have blurred the line between war and peace. Over the last decade, those 60 words have become the legal foundation for the "war on terror." In this collaboration with BuzzFeed, reporter Gregory Johnsen tells us the story of how this has come to be one of the most important, confusing, troubling sentences of the past 12 years. We go into the meetings that took place in the chaotic days just after 9/11, speak with Congresswoman Barbara Lee and former Congressman Ron Dellums about the vote on the AUMF. We hear from former White House and State Department lawyers John Bellinger & Harold Koh. We learn how this legal language unleashed Guantanamo, Navy Seal raids and drone strikes. And we speak with journalist Daniel Klaidman, legal expert Benjamin Wittes and Virginia Senator Tim Kaine about how these words came to be interpreted, and what they mean for the future of war and peace.

    Listen and read more at http://www.radiolab.org/story/60-words/

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  28. The consensus was the day after that "yes, we should declare war, but we have no idea who we should declare war against."

    Read and listen more at Listen and read more at http://www.radiolab.org/story/60-words/

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  29. So now we should just completely drop all intelligence and military activity in the middle east and assume that neither ISIS nor Iran will pose a threat to us?

    And, by the way, Ron Dellums and Barbara Lee both have Communist front-group ties, particularly to the World Peace Council, and Harold Koh thinks the US should defer to "international law."

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  30. OMG, let me run away, and I ran, Iraq and Israel too....

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  31. The commies are coming again, if your ilk did not have your plartes so full of the Middle East, you'd be gunning for the commies again. Actually the commies are lined up on the side of our enemy. Capitalists in high places are the most depraved humans ever!

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  32. . In fact, more and more polls are showing what may turn out to be a nightmare for neoconservatives: that a majority of the American people are against haphazard preemptive military interventions and would rather see those funds spent on other things domestically, instead of killing foreigners abroad. Killing foreigners via mass murder is one of the very least efficient uses of taxpayer money, and increasing numbers of Americans are beginning to realize this.

    Read more at http://readersupportednews.org/pm-section/78-78/24886-rick-perry-to-rand-paul-warmongering-is-the-gop-way-somehow-makes-us-safer

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  33. This is what I mean by my assertion that you're utterly oblivious to the threat to your very way of life.

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