Sunday, June 9, 2013

Much still to learn about this guy

Let's proceed cautiously in drawing conclusions about Edward Snowden.  His alarm at the scope of what the US government is keeping tabs on is shared by many of us.  But read through the Glenn Greenwald interview and one sees that his motives are driven to a large degree by moral equivalence - China keeps tabs, the US keeps tabs, no dif - and by a deliberate effort to ignore the ideological essence and global interconnectedness of jihad (says that the police handled the Boston bombing fine and that was that).

I'm also none too keen on his admiration for Bradley Manning.

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  2. Cyber punk, HS drop-out, knew his way around a joy stick, then a mouse, self-moralizing, a lot of the crap he was doing is so arcane, even to the hiring managers. Earlier in the day in America he would be tried for treason. Both Glenn Beck & Michael Moore are enshrining him. This is the Season of the Snitch (following the Season of the Snoop).

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  3. Glenn Beck ✔ @glennbeck

    I think I have just read about the man for which I have waited. Earmarks of a real hero. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/09/edward-snowden-nsa-whistleblower-surveillance …

    Michael Moore ✔ @MMFlint

    HERO OF THE YEAR: #EdwardSnowden NSA tech assistant reveals he is the source of stories on U.S. Gov't domestic spying http://mmflint.me/11P4jva


    3:18 PM - 9 Jun 2013


    3:46 PM - 9 Jun 2013

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  4. This sounds like a reasonable rationale and protocol to me in the fight vs. Islamic terrorism, you?

    Michael Hayden, who led both the NSA and CIA, said the government doesn’t touch the phone records unless an individ­ual is connected to terror­ism.

    He described on “Fox News Sunday” how it works if a U.S. intelli­gence agent seized a cell­phone at a terrorist hide­out in Pakistan.

    “It’s the first time you’ve ever had that cell­phone number. You know it’s related to terrorism because of the pocket lit­ter you’ve gotten in that operation,” Hayden said. “You simply ask that data­base, ‘Hey, any of your phone numbers in there ever talked to this phone number in Waziristan?’ ” Hayden said the Oba­ma administration had ex­panded the scope of the surveillance, but that oversight by lawmakers and the Foreign Intelli­gence Surveillance Court also had grown because of changes in the law.

    Read more at http://www.businessweek.com/ap/2013-06-10/nsa-the-finder-and-keeper-of-countless-us-secrets

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  5. Gotta love Daniel Ellsberg, dontcha?

    Daniel Ellsberg: "Edward Snowden Is a Hero and We Need More Whistleblowers"

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  6. Rush was gushing over him this afternoon, as you know. Unless you have made up your mind, I am like you, I just dunno about this kid. I am seeing a lot of talk from folk that are more inclined towards your alleged freedom hating that are seriously reserving judgment on him. I thought you self-appointed and anointed freedom lovers wanted us to fight jihad. I think the NSA was on to some serious and effective methods there. Problem is, nobody trusts the government. Not too many trust corporations either. What to do, what to do, I know, elect a Tea Party conservative, right?

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  7. Is N.S.A. leaker Edward Snowden a "grandiose narcissist," as Jeffrey Toobin writes on newyorker.com (http://nyr.kr/15RccVB), or a hero, as John Cassidy argues (http://nyr.kr/14PXonN)?

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  8. Edward Snowden will tear the GOP apart: http://thebea.st/19hd1LF

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  9. I would certainly think that this character had to sign numerous confidentiality agreements as a condition of his contract employment with a 3rd party. I always have to. This alone is grounds for a civil suit, if not a criminal one. Oh, but Rush thinks he's so 'profoundly articulate & extremely thoughtful.' Hell, this vindicates Obama for the snooping on the press. Prosecute his ass to the fullest!

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  10. I think you know who John Yoo is, here is what he said in a favorite conservative forum of yours:

    "The NSA leak case will reveal if the Obama administration really means what it said about its foolish and unconstitutional pursuit of the AP and Fox News in other leak cases."

    Read more at: you probably already read it

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