Saturday, March 16, 2013

Not everyone who is deviating from the divine order of things wants to force the destruction of that divine order

I realize I have not yet weighed in on either the election of Pope Francis or this year's CPAC.  One - I guess we should make that two - of those cases in which pundits across the spectrum jumped right in on  those developments and said everything I'd have to say, at least for a few days.

Now I can see that the areas of cultural and spiritual overlap between them are what interests me most about each.

The obvious noteworthy elements about the selection of Cardinal Bergoglio - his being a Jesuit and an Argentine, his mix of scholarly rigor with a hefty dose of everyday-life-type experience - have been amply covered.  A fair amount of attention has also been given to the ridiculous expectations of the Left that he - or whoever had been selected - would bust Catholic doctrine wide open with some kind of revolutionary progressivism.  The idea that this moment in Church history was going to be an opportunity for wild departures concerning marriage or gender and how either relate to the priesthood was the stuff of FHer fancy.

Probably the closest to a must-read about Pope Francis I've come across is Mary Eberstadt's essay at Time, in which she says that he embodies contemporary Christianity's overall dilemma, which is winning souls in an increasingly secular world.

Regarding the other current event, CPAC, while considered ineffective and perhaps even irrelevant by some conservatives (a view that's not universal), has been a treasure trove of electrifying speakers, from Allen West to Pat Caddell to Amity Shlaes to Rand Paul - to name but a sampling. (To be sure, the organizers also included some irrelevant - indeed, non-conservative - head-scratchers, such as Donald Trump and Mitt Romney).

So where is the convergence of which I spoke in paragraph two?

It's certainly there in the matter of homosexuality.  Here you have a religion, Christianity, that says that homosexuality is a violation of the way God ordered the universe.  On the other hand, you have an undeniable segment of the population that professes a same-gender orientation and considers itself conservative - as in embracing all three pillars of that worldview.

My sense, from conversations over the years with conservative homosexual friends, is that all they ask in that realm of their lives is to be able to work out their salvation privately - which is  way salvation is worked out for anyone anyway.  They are absolutely correct that, as advocates for the free market, a vigilant foreign policy, and, yes, a sociocultural view rooted in upholding basics like commitment, loyalty, decency and dignity, their presence at the table is essential.

When one considers the type and degree of attack on our three pillars by the Left in all its manifestations, it makes no sense to exclude anybody who might have some useful ideas on how to defeat our common enemy.

Remember, we are talking about conservatism here - which means recognizing and honoring immutable truths.  If some brethren who admit to being in a particularly vexing spiritual position are willing to so recognize such truths, shouldn't we enlist their insights on the 85 percent of common ground we have with them?

I may have some more thoughts about areas of overlap between these two news items.  The point, as Breitbart, Mamet and many others have stressed many times, is that culture is upstream from politics, and no wonkery or back-room machinations are going to be effective until we have a solid sense of how to engage the culture.




15 comments:

  1. And Pope Francis is not likely to change the church's stance on either capitalism or preemptive war either. You will then be on your own again in those regards. All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of the Lord. And blessed are the peacemakers....

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  2. I was listening to EWTN talk radio yesterday and these Catholic conservatives can't wait to see a smack down of Biden and Pelosi at the communion rail. There is a prayer said before communion that goes "Lord, I am not worthy to receive you, but only say the word and I shall be healed." In the eyes of our Father we are all the same.

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  3. In the past year changes to the translated wording of several of the so-called responses of the faithful have been mandated. The Latin words of the Centurion to Jesus who was begging Jesus to heal his dying son have now been changed to the more literal "Lord I am not worthy that you should come under my roof" which is about as much change as we are likely to see for another 45 years, unless, as many of the mavens of the apocalypse are now getting all worked up about the supposed visions of Pope Malachi who was a sort of Nostradamus who they are claiming predicted centuries ago that this would be our last pope. I always like to ask why thes crazies are so eager to have our beautiful planet and all the innocents (the non-humans) annihilated. Well, keep it in your pants bro unless its for procreation...

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  4. Italy's National Health Care Plan consumes about 9% of their GDP and is generally regarded as 2nd best in the world. France's is #1.

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  5. You're seriously going to put Italy and France up as economic successes?

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  6. No and neither is the US, according to your fear mongering, even without universal health care.. Oh, google vatican universal health care. You will find that its official stance is universal health care for everybody.

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  7. Argentina offers a universal option supportrd by taxation. 11% GDP. How are they doing fiscally? How about your beloved Israel you are itching to see nukes fly over?

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  8. Re: the Vatican's position: It's inconsistent. Helping one's fellow human beings is only worth anything when it is an act of volition out of an individual's heart. Universal healthcare requires government coercion. I could cite several articles an position papers from the likes of the Acton Institute and the Ethics and Public Policy Center and the like, but I can handle this one with my own polemical powers.

    The Church is already experiencing the inevitable contradiction in such a position in its fights to be exempt from contraception and abortion funding.


    Re: Argentina: the average unemployment rate there from 2002 to 2012 was 10.24, and has only dipped below 7 percent for two individual quarters in that time.

    Re: Israel: We've already been over that one. Doctor strikes, people seeking private care.

    Nope, government health care is about as bad and society-corroding an idea as humanity has ever had. No entity has the right to forcibly take my money for someone else's medical treatment.

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  9. The US economic meltdown in '08 hit the entire world hard. You can have your opinions about all that and your rationales but the fact remains that the US is the only developed nation on earth without a universal option (as it is, medicaid is free to the indigent and the uninsured with catastrophic bills and I don't know about you but I can cite several examples of pepole I know (one who we both know) who had to utilize medicaid or where the providers just had to drop high 6 figure bills because of the simple inability of the patient to pay.

    Well, I am sure the cameras will be rolling to see if the new pope denies communion to your enemies Joseph Robinett Biden, Jr. and Nancy Patricia D'Alesandro Pelosi at his installlation on Tuesday because he does not understand our separation of church and state and that our elected officials swear fealty to the United States of America, not the Roman Catholic Church. They can still hold their heads high because their roles in the implementation of a universal health care plan for the US were significant. Sure there are many matters to be worked-out, honed and refined which always is the case. But, you know, you lost the vote in Congress, lost the Supreme Court challenge and lost the presidential election. Keep fighting. We do not expect otherwise, but so far you are losing. We would not expect to ever hear a good word from you about either it or social security or medicare. I will fight you all the way bro. And my church will back me. I hope yours backs you who fecklessly attempts to proclaim the immorality of social insurance.

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  10. And in case your or your readers don't want to take the trouble to research the Roman Catholic Church's official stance on universal health care, here is the link and here is a snippet:

    The Vatican said the Catholic Church is "committed to universal healthcare coverage" in a release Thursday that described a speech by one of its leaders before the World Health Assembly.

    Archbishop Zygmunt Zimoski told the meeting in Geneva on Wednesday that the Vatican supports Resolution WHA64.9, a measure that would urge countries to "plan the transition of their health systems to universal coverage."

    "My delegation strongly believes that … fundamental values such as equity, human rights and social justice need to become explicit policy objectives," Zimoski said.

    Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/other/229313-vatican-catholic-church-committed-to-universal-healthcare-coverage-%C2%A0#ixzz2NkTg9x3u
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  11. And of course you realize that there are many more Protestant denominations in favor of universal health care coverage and that the religious lobby, along with the hospital lobby in this country are heavily involved in attempting to convince recalcitrant governors that they need to opt in.

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  12. "As I wrestled with this decision, I thought about my mom and her struggles to get my little brother the care he needed with very little money," Scott said. "I concluded that for the three years the federal government is committed to paying 100 percent of the cost of new people in Medicaid, I cannot, in good conscience, deny the uninsured access to care." --Florida Governor Rick Scott State of the State Address, March 5, 2103

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  13. Well, two things about all this: you know about our overall debt - $16 trillion - and the unfunded liabilities of these collectivist programs whose continued existence you are so committed to.

    Actually, there is another thing, and I've already mentioned it - the immorality of government forcibly taking my money to pay someone else's medical expenses.

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  14. Lots of things contribute to our overall debt. Nobody is saying that universal coverage is free. You still gotta pay for it. It is immoral to treat the quite socialistic concept of insurance like some Vegas casino where the house always wins. Human health is not a crapshoot for profiteers.

    Even Jesus did not comment on any immorality in either assessing taxes or certainly not in paying them. He even supped with tax collectors, one of whom even demonstrated the appropriate attitude of humility that allows God to come into their life.

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