He looks at the world-spanning supply chains of big corporations and how they make for a monolith that outstrips the power of any nation to assert its sovereignty in the face of that monolith. The values of a Google, an Apple, a Cummins, will supersede those of the indigenous culture in which such a firm situates a facility.
One of the frequent blind spots for economic libertarians, speaking as one who has personally dealt with this log in the eye, is a tendency to allow principles of how economies work and the beauty of trade to make us ignore perceived threats animating people who value more than just the power to buy and sell. The gigantism encouraged by our modern globalist system has many perks across many industries. But it has also given rise to a global corporate elite. This elite tribe of globalists share certain values: they are more tolerant of regulation, insomuch as it drives out competition; they are more welcoming of government expenditure, insomuch as it buys their products, builds their needed infrastructure, and subsidizes their hospital systems; and they care little about the subjugation of rights to speech and religion, so much as it makes their ability to sell in certain markets inconvenient.This technocratic global elite will brook no local cultural impediments to its vision:
Today, the centralized power among the leaders of the global tech industry – who have little use for free speech and religion, and are thoroughly onboard with the Messianic aims of the environmental movement and the redefinitional aims of the anti-family movement – are steadily prodding governments to seal up the valves and the hatches. In a world where all the companies agree, what use are they after all?
The implicit motto of the global elites today is “no escape” – no escape valve from a permanently politicized life, where the only legitimate perspective is their monopolistic, secularized, authoritarian-friendly “no gods but science” view. When we do not view each other as legitimate – particularly when decisions are not coming from the people or properly elected officials, but from some other force – it leads to resentment, escalation, and eventually something much worse. We must view our fellow voters as legitimate citizens, and the leaders and policies we choose at the ballot box as legitimate expressions of the views of our fellow citizens. When we do not, we risk disaster. We risk conceding the field to the global elite that views us as a backwards people, who ultimately ought to be dissolved to elect another.
So the ground-level Leftist who sneers and rants at "the corporate world" has the right object of his or her ire, but the wrong reasons for harboring such ire.
But seeing that would require a very disturbing look in the mirror. The suits and muckety-mucks of the world they hold in such disdain are using their clout to impose on the entire world the very values that the Leftist holds dear.
Well-played, Leftists, even if you can't see the nature of your victory.
Whether it is left or right or something else, but this country is pretty evenly split, see the GA Congressional election results today. Whether one faction or the other has the right or wrong reason for skepticism about the corporate world is immaterial, but money is power. And power is not something our Savior ever sucked up to. And I don't think he dressed in finery and drove a cool chariot.
ReplyDeleteIt's far from immaterial. Much of the corporate world is acting as a very influential agent for the destruction of the West's foundations.
ReplyDeleteI did not state that the corporate action in this direction you are finally bemoaning, I said both the left and the right have their reasons to rail and whether one faction or the other has the right or wrong reason is immaterial. I don't belong to either the left or the right but am continually accused of being leftist. Perhaps some of my views are. But I also have right wing views too and you know it. Come on, isn't a human brain large enough to contain multitudes?
ReplyDeleteAt some point, you will see that there has to be some thread of consistency, some underlying set of principles, driving how you formulate your views on any given issue.
ReplyDeleteI doubt either major political party survives. Likely replaced by product placement and social media. I think there is miscalculation in describing John as unfamiliar with underlying principles. I think that is what he does for a living.
ReplyDeleteMy consistency lies with Catholic liberalism. I'm pro immigration, anti-war and abortion, amongst other qualities. It all has very deep grounding, unlike what you continually contend about me, bloggie. I am pro-science as the Church now says she is and a universalist when it comes to humanity, weeping even for the dead on the "enemy" side On the other hand I am anti censorship and leave the homosexuality up to the homosexuals. Mercy is my game. And I believe in redemption and that trials and tribulations and even stupid mistakes can be redeeming if they are seen as opportunities for growth and eventual reconciliation. I believe I'm forgiving, as difficult as that may be as the pathway forgiveness and that this life here is only a beginning.
ReplyDeleteThis civil war--which side is declaring it? Tricky Dick tried his damndest to quash all those not with him and guys like your beloved Ronnie ramped it up. They knew best, they thought, though free thinkers always knew their rap was often a pack of lies.
ReplyDeleteAnswer to your question re: which side is declaring it: the Left. There is no serious disputing of this.
ReplyDeleteGot some names I can look up? All you cite in your post are righties claiming it's civil war? Which side is our fearful prexy gonna be on, cause he's got all the weaponry.
ReplyDeleteWhy do you hold the view on war that you do? Why do you hold the view on homosexuality that you do? Why do you take the position on health care that you do? Or on taxation?
ReplyDeleteI already told you. Some wars are justifiable but most are not. And I always look at the lopsided kill rates we have come up with since my birth at the beginning of the 2nd half of the 20th Century with sadness in my heart at least for all the innocents. Inlook at homosexuality as the way my fellow man say they do-/that it is the way they were born and I believe them. Health care is a right and a Christian obligation. You know why many hospitals still today bear the names of saints or denominations. Taxation. Is the way to fund the common welfarE. As several Popes have stated during my lifetime: capitalism and communism are 2 sides of the same coin. The Catholic Church was essentially socialist long before the deadly disagreements of the 20th Century and it worked fine for decades but I realize it's not for everybody so I have to play the game too. Actually it's inbred in me as an American. Why do you continually ask me this?
ReplyDeleteAnd I'm certainly a New York Timer when it comes to a free press of choice, though often in disagreement as they always of course have allowed for. And, like with some 70 per cent of Americans, against taking away our meager funding for same. It's less than 1 per cent of the federal budget. And I and many others here will not brook a healthcare bill being shoved up is any more than you and your ilk brooked the ACA. But this is the storm before the calm of universal coverage that can be as exceptional as everything else you claim about us. Sure I don't trust the government, but I trust the stock market even less.
ReplyDeleteWhat justifies a war?
ReplyDeleteWhat doesn't justify a war?
How do we reconcile what Leviticus 18:22 and Romans 1:26 - 27 with homosexuals' demand that we look upon their unions as legitimate in the eyes of God? For that matter, what are we to do with the fact that no society anywhere on the globe, prior to the last fifteen years max, ever made room in its culture for homosexual "marriage"? Has a homosexual couple of either gender ever, anywhere, by any means, naturally conceived a child?
How do you define "common welfare"? To what extent does it go beyond maintaining a treasury, diplomatic function, military, and court system?
On what basis can you justify public broadcasting?
If health care is a right, how did people in the year 1300 exercise their right to a triple bypass?
What is the relationship between a kill rate and whether a war is justified?
ReplyDeleteNone. Did I state there was? And Leviticus was written by a very flawed man who had O knowledge of science. After he was done Persecuting the Jews he hated the Greeks who were OK with it
ReplyDeleteLong before his arrival on the scene. Because it is natural aka God given. It
Is all over the animal kingdom. When did you become such a Bible Thumper?
I'm still struggling to discern a uniform body of principles informing your views on any particular issue.
ReplyDeleteAlso, your disinclination to actually address each and every one of my questions. If those questions were posed to me, I could, at a moment's notice, state why I embraced my position on each of those matters.
ReplyDelete"All over the animal kingdom." Shoot me some percentages for some species. More to the point, where are the cultures anywhere in human history that sanctioned homosexual "marriage" and granted such unions some kind of "right" to adopt babies, given that they wouldn't be able to obtain babies otherwise?
ReplyDeleteAnd you still haven't taken on my question about triple bypasses in 1300.
Hold on there, I took a break to do some grocery shopping before I actually addressed each and every one of your questions.
ReplyDelete1)Jus bellum justum. Augustine, who wrote extensively about it in The City of God does not exist. There is no just war. Ever. War is a product of the state, and Christians will be engaged in the fight but, as our Saviour said, render unto Caesar what is Caesars because here ain't where it is happening at all. Aquinas 8 centuries later laid out some critera which you can look up as well as I can. Bottom line for A2 was that peace must be the central motive, even in the midst of the violence. Thou shalt not kill dude. Look it all up if you are so inclined. I guarantee the subject will again come up over the next 4 years as hawkish as our prexy is and you have always been. I justify public broadcasting on the basis of that this is a democracy and, for the money (.1% of the Federal budget) your ilk's moves are basically just being nasty and worse. I did not refer at all to homosexual marriage. Repeal the laws if you want and can and then shut the f up about it and let people be as most people want to let them be. Vengeance is not yours, only to love God first and your neighbor as yourself. Common welfare is what the majority agrees on as common welfare. There were no triple bypasses until the 1960s after the heart lung machine was invented. It's already a right. Where you been? You tell me why I should care whether you find a unified set of principles in my thinking. it's my thinking until I change it and that may well happen. It could even happen to you.
I already cited the instances of homosexuality in the animal kingdom. Look it up if you forgot. You can google as well as I can. There is new research coming out every day on that topic. Just read an article yesterday. I got to get in my steak and potatoes now and then off to a swim and sauna. Have a nice evening,
ReplyDeleteOne more thing: wtf does triple bypasses in the 1300s have to do with anything. I read a book once about the whole heart lung deal and then the stent deal. Are you saying that this research and inventiveness would not occur without the Almighty Dollar as a motivation? Did you know Cuba has developed a vaccine for lung cancer? Whatever the motivation, the rest of the world is part of the scientific and technological progress we have made and they are bowing down to our exceptionalism less and less, especially under this Republican leadership in the White House.
ReplyDeleteOne more thing while my potato bakes. My brain is not a political platform, Republican, Democrat, Libertarian or otherwise. My brain might participate in attempting to formulate a platform with other brains but it is doubtful any 2 brains on this planet can agree entirely. Look to Christianity and, as ludicrous as it may sound to you, the 12 Steps of Alcoholics Anonymous for my guiding lights. Throw in liberal doses of zen and Taoist thinking or rather not thinking and there you got me. I am also a part of all I have met and realize that I, like no man, am not an island entire unto myself. I might not be all that cool. Then again, maybe I might be. Just a man, just a seeker, just a soul. So are you. The 11th Step (ask your current preacher) pretty much wraps it all up and it is as deep as the sea and as broad as the universe: Sought through prayer and meditation to improve our conscious contact with God as we understood him. I've worked them and they work. They bring you to God, but of course not perfection, not even a million bucks, but sometimes you will fee like it. Not for everybody. You've found it. Now try to pass it on. God speed!
ReplyDeleteI am thinking those people in the 1300's were exercising their right to keep the feudal lords pig.
ReplyDeleteTriple bypass has everything to do with it. The fact is, there was no triple bypass in 1300 because the procedure had not been invented yet. The keyword being "invented." All human activity that falls under the category "health care" consists of activity that human beings, of their own volition, engaged in. You can't compel your fellow human being to engage in some particular activity. Down that road lies slavery. By definition, there is no right to health care. Nothing that requires your fellow human being to do something can be a right.
ReplyDeleteYou didn't answer the other question I had about homosexuality: Where are the cultures anywhere in human history that sanctioned homosexual "marriage" and granted such unions some kind of "right" to adopt babies, given that they wouldn't be able to obtain babies otherwise?
ReplyDeleteAnd if no war is ever just, then it was a mistake for the colonies to wrest free of the British crown, right? It was a mistake for the North to insist, by way of applying overwhelming force, that the southern states rejoin the Union and give up slavery, right? After the Pearl Harbor attack, we should have just continued on with normal diplomatic relations with imperial Japan, right?
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ReplyDeleteI just said I never mentioned homosexual marriage. We live in a democracy. The people have spoken. If they want to speak out again against it, well, so be it. One vote, one man, that's all I am.
ReplyDeleteThe Revolutionary War in America was largely a defensive endeavor (many parallels with our "invasion" of Viet Nam (largely a military-industrial bull market). Were the British acting kindly to their colonies? Were the settlers acting kindly to the Indians? Tit for tat and all that. The just war argument hinges on what we read about what it was and is said our Savior told us back those 2 millennia plus. He said he left us the Paraclete. Listen to the spirit. And follow. The 5 Ws of all wars fill libraries of commentary. Yes, it has always been with us, but, hey, in my lifetime, I haven't seen a war we have won, where we sought peace from the get-go. Wars since the 20th Century have increasingly been waged from the air, involving killing of children and other innocents, including flora and fauna for decades afterwards. (I sound like a wus, don't I, a tree hugger at best). Bottom line is, Augustine came up with the concept. It has been argued over for a millennia and a half or more. An image of you in my mind sticks out in time, that of you half drunk and cheering when the bombs dropped on Libya by your hero. Another one of those eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth thing (retaliation for a terrorist act which killed 2 servicemen and a female). You were on the edge of your chair, shouting "Dutch, Dutch, Dutch." Glorious moment for you, huh?
"The good man wins a victory and then stops; he will not go on to acts of violence. Winning, he boasteth not; he will not triumph; he shows no arrogance. He wins because he cannot choose; after his victory he will not be overbearing."
"Weapons, however beautiful, are instruments of ill omen, hateful to all creatures. Therefore he who has Tao will have nothing to do with them." Tao Te Ching (circa 400 BC)
I have not lived my life by the sword. But my words can be cutting enough. On my knees, in humility I pray, that the evil of violence and war will not end our earthly days. Obviously more manly men than I have developed deadly weapons carried by who knows what next guy or gal. Is that the Spirit?
I get that these are fun times for the hawks. Follow your leader, into hell on earth. Too bad it ain't Dutch. But now you got the Paraclete. Roll with it.....
And, for fear of being accused of not fully answering your questions about whether it was wrong to engage in the most deadly wars in our history, I can honestly still say, maybe. There is plenty of argument in favor of at least maybe, if you want to seek, you might find. Unlike Jesus, I make no promises that you will. You've found it, right? The Paraclete. OK, let hesheit be your guide, but only if you will, it's not my call for you at all. I won't likely be there when you draw your last breath, nor will you likely be anywhere when I draw mine, nor wil your or I likely care, not much, if at all, but the Paraclete might send a goose bump our way or two as we perhaps go on, as we always do.
ReplyDeleteBut wait, if you endorse the reasons for the Revolutionary War, there are inconsistencies in your blanket tenet that you are "antiwar."
ReplyDelete"The people have spoken" tells me nothing about the core principles that inform your views on homosexuality. I'm not asking about "the people" here.
And tell me more about how one can have a right to the efforts of one's fellow human being.
ReplyDelete"Rights to the effort of a fellow human being", that's tough here to. Matthew 20:1-16
ReplyDeleteLet us not forget that Jesus makes it clear that the landowner reserves the right to pay whichever worker whatever he wants to pay him. The landowner tells them, "Hey, you signed up to work for an unspecified wage. Well, here it is." And let us also not forget that the guys standing around in the village were free to say to the landowner, "Nah, I'm gonna pas on your offer."
ReplyDeleteThose were parables. And I anti war and so we're most of the colonists at the time. I stared that there is thought ought there in the libearies filled with books on all wars that all wars could have been prevented. When did you start all this Bible thumping? Do you think you are brilliant now, some shining star I'm God's cosmos. America's experience in all the wars we've engaged in since my birth are more a lesson in hubris than anything else. I hope we have China on board with what we do in Korea this time or it will prove Ike right.
ReplyDeleteIt's saddening to see an inquiry into your core principles devolve into "Do you think you are brilliant now, some shining star I'm God's cosmos." Especially since I'm not seeing any greater signs of consistency than when I first asked.
ReplyDeleteAnd this business about most of the colonists being against the Revolution. Does that mean it was wrong and shouldn't have happened?
ReplyDeleteAnd you are? What? My leader? My teacher? Do you want to grade me? What gives you the right to insist on anything from me, including your idea that consistency is important? I don't even know what you're talking about. If consistency is important to you, be consistent. And judge me all you want, but I don't have to conform to your idea of consistency. You act like most newly saved people is all I know. That's consistent for sure.
ReplyDeleteAll wars are wrong. Thou shalt not kill. Be consistent with that, oh newly saved one.
ReplyDeleteAnd are you going to address the matter of how one can have a right to the efforts of one's fellow human beings?
ReplyDeleteAnd change the laws that hospitals must treat the injured then, rather than let them flounder on the street. Then you can be secure in your thinking that health care is not a right. Maybe it is not a right, but to help your fellow man is your duty.
ReplyDeleteYour overweening brilliance and superiority to me (in your own mind) is expressed in a comment of yours above: "Also, your disinclination to actually address each and every one of my questions. If those questions were posed to me, I could, at a moment's notice, state why I embraced my position on each of those matters." At a moment's notice, wow, golly gee, how can I emulate this man amongst men among us? How can ever get to be like him? At a moment's notice he is ready with the Gawd awful truth. Humbling.
ReplyDeleteWhat'd you do, sit down and memorize your own brilliant positions and correct errors of inconsistency? I would bow down to you, but I won't.
ReplyDeleteSo it's a privilege to be treated and cared for medically, eh? If it is not a right, what is it. Oh I know, a transaction. Gimme this and I'll do that for you. Might work for a haircut but a haircut ain't gonna sew up a gaping wound.
ReplyDeleteI'm not insisting. Im just curious. I'd made the observation that at some point, you will see that there has to be some thread of consistency, some underlying set of principles, driving how you formulate your views on any given issue. You chose to take exception to my assertion, but have yet to substantiate your exception.
ReplyDeleteWith regard to your question about citing some sources to show that the Left started our current civil war or culture war or whatever one wants to call it, we can sort with William Appleman Williams, the U of Wisconsin history professor who came up with the notion of moral equivalence, that the US and the USSR were just two hegemonic superpowers with not a hair's difference between them in terms of the righteousness of their aims. Then, of course, we can look at the Black Panthers, who took advantage of the vacuum created by MLK's death to inject a more militant view of race relations into societal discourse. Then came feminism and the notion that patriarchy was arbitrarily cooked up by men rather than being the universal default setting for the way societies are formed. Then came "gay-rights" militancy. Throughout these developments, there was the coarsening of the culture. It started with literature and music, but found its way into television programming as well. The constant thread connecting all these developments was a notion that somehow there was some kind of "establishment" that was keeping humanity from fully flourishing, and thus a "counterculture" was needed to resist it.
That's the short version.
We've dispensed with that false right-vs-privelege dichotomy before, so it looks a little desperate for you to bring it up again.
ReplyDeleteHealth care is merely a service, like getting your car's oil changed, or having a plumber fix a leak in your house.
Re: fixing a gaping wound: that's why it's prudent to set up a gaping-wound-possibility fund in one's household budget.
ReplyDeleteOtherwise just let em bleed to death and go off smirking, nah nah nah nah nah, I got coverage and you don't? In the gaping wound instance, health care is a right if you want to look at it that way. But it appears most of us, probably including me, are not going to be Good Samaritans, but there are probably 50 hospitals with that name in America, if not more. I told you most of my views are aligned with Catholicism. The rest are formulated on experience. Subject to change. Is the cosmos always consistent? I think not, the clock model went out with the Renaissance. When you get time, list my inconsistencies again would you. Remember I am anti war, pro immigration, anti abortion, anti prohibition, anti censorship, pro science, anti- hate, pro-love. What else do you want to argue about?
ReplyDeleteMy underlying principles come fe the same place yours do, but I may have taken Eastern thinking and spirituality further than you who introduced me to them from your reading and perhaps coursework and who you hung with at Wabash College. I love to learn fe others. We are all a part of all we have met.
ReplyDelete“If by a "Liberal" they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people-their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights and their civil liberties-someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a "Liberal", then I'm proud to say I'm a "Liberal.” --JFK
ReplyDeleteLove Me, I'm a Liberal Lyrics
ReplyDeleteI cried when they shot Medgar Evers
Tears ran down my spine
I cried when they shot Mr. Kennedy
As though I'd lost a father of mine
But Malcolm X got what was coming
He got what he asked for this time
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal
I go to civil rights rallies
And I put down the old D.A.R
I love Harry and Sidney and Sammy
I hope every colored boy becomes a star
But don't talk about revolution
That's going a little bit too far
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal
I cheered when Humphrey was chosen
My faith in the system restored
I'm glad the commies were thrown out
Of the A.F.L. C.I.O. board
I love Puerto Ricans and Negros
As long as they don't move next door
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal
The people of old Mississippi
Should all hang their heads in shame
I can't understand how their minds work
What's the matter don't they watch Les Crane?
But if you ask me to bus my children
I hope the cops take down your name
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal
I read New republic and Nation
I've learned to take every view
You know, I've memorized Lerner and Golden
I feel like I'm almost a Jew
But when it comes to times like Korea
There's no one more red, white and blue
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal
I vote for the democratic party
They want the U.N. to be strong
I go to all the Pete Seeger concerts
He sure gets me singing those songs
I'll send all the money you ask for
But don't ask me to come on along
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal
Once I was young and impulsive
I wore every conceivable pin
Even went to the socialist meetings
Learned all the old union hymns
But I've grown older and wiser
And that's why I'm turning you in
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal--P.Ochs